What I am sure about is that anything of substance that I've accomplished in my life had pain of some kind associated with it. One could argue that graduating high school or college in a way is just an ability to endure pain. Certainly there are those classes that we love, but in general the amount of work involved is sometimes tedious, the classes themselves can be dull and often it's really just about enduring. Aikido is no different. You keep going, you keep training, and at the end you accomplish something, whatever your personal goal may be.
There is physical pain associated with Aikido training and there is also emotional pain; both of which people tend to run from. Physically I think we get it, but emotional pain is different. Sometimes it's as mundane as a plateau. Everyone who trains in any physical activity reaches moments where they feel they aren't improving. This is frustrating and painful in ways, and I've seen many people quit at this moment. For the life of me I can't understand why. I mean, of course I get it but I wonder what someone hopes to accomplish by quitting. Nothing of substance has ever been accomplished by quitting a thing, yet it seems that it's something we happen to be very, very good at.
Although I've chosen Aikido, I think studying anything, focusing on it, pushing yourself to accomplish some goal and then actually accomplishing it is a hugely important component to life training. This is a skill that helps us in many, many ways and I worry that we've become too conditioned to giving up at the slightest resistance. Is this true? Do we run the minute a thing offers us some push back? I think this is likely putting it too strongly, but this has been my experience.
However, taking on needless pain is called self-abuse, so there must be some line between an acceptable amount of pain that will help us grow, and too much pain that will tear us down. Pain frightens people, so at the slightest touch they recoil, but they haven't come anywhere close to going too far. I don't suggest trying to go too far, that isn't my point, but the first sensation of pain is likely not enough to cause any harm (of course, depending on what we are talking about). But in general, in terms of life pain, my suggestion is to try enduring; patient endurance as Herman Hesse told us in Siddhartha.
Be okay with some pain, push a little bit against personal limitation in order to see what lies beyond that initial limit. Be brave and have faith and confidence in yourself that you'll know when it's time to pull back. Timidity, hesitation, these are the things that limit me and that limit all of us. Again, over exuberance and mindlessness lead us to undue pain, but people who posses these traits are rare.
The point isn't to just be in pain for the sake of it, but to learn to push through personal limitations. Whatever the goal might be, whatever a person wants to accomplish in their life will not be accomplished without some ability to endure. No great success story starts off with, "it was pretty easy, I guess." At least I haven't heard this story and if I did it wouldn't move me in any way. We like underdog stories, we like stories about the little guy rising up to meet and overcome challenges. In writing we say there are three types of conflict, man versus man, man versus nature and man versus society. In any of these types of conflict there is always, without exception, pain. We cannot avoid pain, it is part of our human condition, so it's my opinion that we need to train ourselves in how we manage pain, resolve pain, and in how we understand our own and others pain. We do this, at least in terms of a metaphor, by practicing endurance. By allowing pain to be what it is, and continue on in our lives is one way in which we can improve ourselves and not giving up at each new iteration.
I've been training martial arts fairly actively for almost twenty years now, and I promise you there have been infinite moments where I want to quit. I may still quit, I don't know, but I haven't yet and because of that I feel as if I've accomplished something. Maybe nothing that great, but I've endured, I know I can endure, and this feels like an accomplishment to me. I also leaped out of a marriage after only a few years, so I do realize we all have our times when we can endure and when we can't, but, the point is to recognize pain for what it is and practice not allowing that pain to limit us.
Although I don't think we need to go back to this mind set of thinking that asking for help is weakness, I do think we could use a little bit of fortitude. Once again my quick post has gotten out of control so I'll revisit this at some other point.

This is great. Thanks for telling me about it. These are all topics of great interest to me.
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I noticed something very striking this week. When I taught the two kids' classes on Wednesday, I was being generally silly during warm-ups, having them do weird things, rolling around on the mat, whatever. And the kids, as always, were not paying as much attention as I would prefer -- not doing quite what I was doing, getting distracted, occasionally just not doing particular things they didn't like for whatever reason. But they were also clearly having fun -- smiling, enjoying being silly, playing.
ReplyDeleteI then did some of the same things during warm-ups for the adult class the next day, and the difference was remarkable -- the adults were carefully imitating exactly what I was doing... but looked so concerned and serious and worried about getting it "right" and were obviously not having fun at all.
Is it possible to find some balance between those two extremes? I don't believe training should be "fun" in the sense of trying to make it a nice safe happy world where we don't ever worry about anything because we're never being pushed beyond where we're comfortable. As you said in your post -- if I'm learning anything, then sometimes I'm uncomfortable and frustrated and in pain of some kind or another; that's just inevitable.
My upbringing unintentionally resulted in me having the belief that I shouldn't do anything that I can't do perfectly. Of course it's also good to challenge myself... but only in a few defined ways. In those cases, there's some allowance for not doing it perfectly right at the very beginning, but I'd better figure it out quickly, or at the very least do it better than anyone else. This is not, as you might guess, conducive to exploring new activities, or sticking with things beyond the point where I feel I "should" have gotten it. It has been, and still is, a difficult thing to recognize and un-learn.
I make a distinction between pain and suffering. Pain is unavoidable, but I see suffering as an additional layer on top of that... that voice that says (sometimes so quietly I don't even realize it's there), "I should already get this, what's my problem? Everyone else can do this, why can't I? I have to do this right, I feel ridiculous doing this...."... and makes us adults worried even during warm-ups. We tend to operate under the misconception that the suffering is caused by the pain, but I have found the two things to be independent. If I eliminate the current cause of the pain, the suffering will just attach itself to something different. Sometimes only by continuing through the pain and seeing that the suffering eventually dissipates on its own, that all of the voice's dire predictions simply don't come true, can I recognize the disconnection between the two.
Each person begins in a different place and will be challenged by different things, but we all will learn *something* if we confront those things and see what's beyond. How can each of us be made to feel safe enough to keep going in spite of that voice, which says the suffering will stop if we just quit?
I like the idea of not caving into discomfort, and training yourself to press on through difficulty.
ReplyDeleteHowever, I'm a little hesitant to ignore pain in my muscles and joints, especially as I age, and I'm really reluctant to tell other people to ignore pain.
What I try to do is find other kinds of discomfort to use as opportunities to train tolerance for discomfort, but which won't result in my body being wrecked. For example, when I feel the fatigue that comes with vigorous training, that point is a training opportunity. I have to decide which way to go. Continue or stop. Or when there are days that I would just rather do something else, it is another training moment. Will I overcome the inertia, or just take it easy.
Currently, those kinds of training moments are important to me. I'm not going to have any huge changes in the performance of techniques at this point in my life, however I am still capable of working on my willingness to push myself.
Don L
I do agree that the suffering will just attach itself to something else (and who said you could mess around with the warm ups?:))), but I also think that the process of not giving into that voice that tries to get us to quit has to start somewhere. Can it be pursued way further then just this idea of learning to endure, I think yes, but maybe it's like what you told me the other day. That we aren't always ready to understand the entire thing, but have to learn piece by piece. The first piece is just realizing that there is pain, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing. From there I think there are limitless possibilities, but it does need to start somewhere.
ReplyDeleteActually, I think that realizing that there is pain, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing... isn't just the first piece, it truly *is* the entire thing.
ReplyDeleteIf the suffering will attach itself to something else even if I eliminate the current source of pain, then I might as well just endure what's happening right now.
But how do we break the habit of seeking pleasure and avoiding pain, or show that to someone to whom it has never even occurred?
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ReplyDeleteYes, I do know just what you mean. I tend to push my self too far sometimes and then regret it in the morning. My body just can't do what it use to do, so I think as we age it's likely appropriate to endure in some other ways. I do think that knowing one's limitations is a valuable skill, but without ever testing the boundaries it's impossible to say what the limits are. When we are physically capable of doing it I think that we need to test those limits in a controlled and relatively safe environment, and then use that skill to continue to push ourselves in different ways as we get older. Then we can look at all the younger people and say, "when I was your age..."
I'm curious why you think knowing your limitations is a valuable skill. What practical benefit do you see to continuously subjecting yourself to pain? Are you preparing yourself for the bigger pain that might be in the future? I think you already know, to a large degree, that you can absorb what life is likely to throw at you.
ReplyDeleteI'm not saying I disagree the idea of pushing hard to improve at something, even if that involves discomfort. I'm just not sure what you mean by "valuable skill".
Don L
Well, I think I meant what I said in the original post, that it can be hard to reach a goal if you can't sit through some discomfort. I'm not sure that pain is the right word because that's usually used for physical discomfort, but I meant a reaction to either emotional of physical resistance that I default to calling pain even if it isn't the perfect word.
ReplyDeleteIf you want to be a shodan in Aikido there will be all kinds of pain. Yes, physical pain but also plateaus in training, maybe a conflict with the teacher or other students, interference with work or family. There are a million things that can, and most often do, get in the way of reaching this goal. Some things are unavoidable, but in my mind much of what keeps us from reaching a goal is our own unwillingness to endure, to just see a thing through to the end. So the valuable skill to me is this. Being able to be okay with some level of discomfort so we can live in any way that we want to live.
I think if it's reaching some level in training, or writing a book, or finding love for yourself, or spiritual and emotion peace then there will absolutely need to be some ability to endure because there will absolutely be resistance. I like the idea of training in Aikido to practice enduring either external or internal resistance. Practicing not quitting, at least to me, is as valuable as anything else.
You and I have talked about this before. I remember when I started at NEA and I was way, way down on one end of what appeared to be a never ending line of students. One day, many years later, there I was at the other end, the highest ranking student in that class. I remember that moment vividly and I asked my self, "how did I get here?" When I started I couldn't even imagine that being possible, but over time it did. So it wasn't that I was any better than anyone else, I just stuck around longer. I think I did practice hard during that time, but it was just a case of attrition. I think you were teaching that class by the way.
I've heard that to make it into any of the special forces in the military is mainly about having an ability to endure. To be okay with extreme amounts of external and internal pressure and to carry on regardless is what they are looking for. Although this is pretty extreme, I think the lesson is a valuable one. If you can continue on, if you can just not quit, you can do your job and succeed. I don't mean this in any kind of hyper-macho way; in a "suck it up or I'll give you something to cry about" way, but only that it's a good example on how to succeed.
I would agree that having a capacity and a willingness to endure discomfort opens doors to a person. You don't have to feel blocked from pursuing a path just because it might be difficult.
ReplyDeleteI would call that a quality rather than a skill. Sorry to pick at the words (Shitsurei itashimashita :-) ) , but I think that training to have a quality is different than training to have a skill (although I would like to think about that one some more). And I agree that it is a valuable quality.
I'm wondering if it is something you need to work at continuously, analogous to maintaining physical stamina, or is it something you gain that first time you persisted, and then you have going forward? Once you successfully got past that first event, does it translate into confidence the next time?
I'm just cautious about tolerating too much discomfort (physical or otherwise) unless I am clear about the benefit. And I am definitely not a person who is interested in or enjoys discomfort for its own sake.
I wonder what you come up with in regard to it being a quality or a skill. I use the word skill because I think you can in some way train yourself to be better at not avoiding pain, and to be better at enduring whatever needs to be endured. I think it is a good quality to have, but I feel like it is such an applied quality that it becomes a skill. I don't even know what that means; maybe I should think on this some more as well. Shitsurei.....
ReplyDeleteI think it's both something that needs to be maintained, and something that once you figure out it stays with you. I know I can endure a lot of pain, but I still find myself running away from things that I find painful. The kinds of resistance I encounter are so different that it takes constant attention on my part. I won't run away from a 2x4, but I will run away from an interpersonal conflict. I can't treat physical pain like another kind of pain, so I do think it requires constant attention. I don't know. What do you think?